Submitted on Wednesday, 10/3/2012, at 1:53 PM

President Biddy Martin recently spoke about the transformative power of education WNYC’s program "Freakanomics Radio."

Martin , appearing with economists David Card, Betsey Stevenson, and Justin Wolfers, as well as former Bush advisor Karl Rove, spoke about her upbringing in rural Virginia, and what an education provides beyond facts and figures.

“The family was skeptical of education…They grew up in a time and a place when the bias against what they would have called eggheads and overly educated people included, among other things, I think a fear that people with a lot of education think they’re better than those who don’t have an education,” she said.

“It’s impossible to learn a completely different way of thinking about things without unlearning what one has already learned,” she said. “And I think it’s important to realize that, because it’s often the case now, people think about education as the acquisition of new things as if it were an unproblematic and promising process, simply of adding to what one already knows or thinks. And the truth is, it is transformative, and that means upending a whole set of assumptions about how to see things, what’s possible, what’s real.”

Listen to the program here or read a complete transcript here.